But Vs bet sizing is giving me some pot odds and stuff yo. X? I think a f/h should shove now with all the draws getting there. River kinda sucks, as I don't quad up, but the way its been played I don't think V has a str8 on the river, maybe He wants to be weird about it, I've sucked out quads before, and pot odds and stuff yo, so I call. We shorthanded so he could have a better 9 or he could have flopped a f/h QQ and sat on it. On the turn I am going to bet for value from any A that missed the flop that will call now or JT or KT type hand that might call as well or FD, I expect pp like 22-88 or TT-JJ that pfr might have opened to fold (but who knows?). Flop pfr should bet all his Qx and over pairs and flushes, but it goes x. I normally don't play this hand anymore unless I am the pfr or 3 betting as a bluff (napoleon and stuff), but pot odds and stuff yo.